科罗纳多CORONADO

好了，我们已经花了一下午的时间研究这些事情，我们还发现有更多的事情要去做。我们不是无所不晓的，如果其他人能加入进来就太好了。每个人都知道别人不知道的事情。如果你知道如何让这个世界持续下去，直到我们最终分解到宇宙中，并且还能回答奥拉的各种疑问，那么让我们来听听吧。想法很奇特也没关系，比如，奥拉提到植物做成的肉对我们和动物来说会更健康，但也有人注意到，只要在牛的饲料中加入少量海藻，它们就会更少地打嗝和放屁。这也是一件好事，因为打嗝和放屁产生的甲烷比汽车尾气中的二氧化碳对空气的危害更大。
Okay. So we spent the afternoon trying to figure things out and what we discovered is there’s more figuring out to do. And since we don’t know everything, it would be really nice if others would chime in. Everybody knows things other people don’t know. If you’ve got some idea how to make this world last until we can spread out across the universe and maybe eventually answer Aura’s Why question, let’s hear it. No matter how weird it may be. Like, although Aura mentioned meat made of plants is healthier for us and the animals, somebody else noticed that just adding a dash of seaweed to cattle feed  makes them burp and fart less. And that’s also a beaut because the methane in burps and farts is worse for the air than the carbon dioxide in auto exhaust.

想法是一回事，实现它们就是另外一回事了。
Ideas are one thing. Making them pay off is something else.

如果你有时间和精力，那就去做吧。即使你自己没有想法，也许别人需要帮忙：也许需要出力，也许需要出钱。 努力吧。
If you’ve got the time and energy, make ‘em happen. Even if you didn’t come up with one yourself, maybe somebody else's needs help: maybe workers, maybe money. Pitch in.

如果你不需要工作，但已经有了一些钱，那么可以利用一些投资者来推进项目，把好的想法付诸实践。有工匠精神的个人和小公司可能是最好的投资，但那些已经有足够资金上市的公司也可以，而且应该获得回报。不管你是有烧不完的钱，还是只是需要做些工作，你都可以去看看一些专注于环保的ETF。这是一个简短的清单，因为大多数公司的产品可以派好的或坏的用场，就像奥拉的例子一样，伸出手来，可以用作拳头，也可以用来问候。和铁相关的产品也一样，既有枪支，又有桥梁。枪可以用于谋杀，也可以用来保护儿童。同样，一座桥可以用来拯救人，也可以用来攻击人。我们的清单是为了避免非此即彼的难题，把注意力集中在那些对我们的世界更有帮助的东西上。我还列出了一些我们一直关注的，感兴趣的公司。我们也欢迎您的建议。但如果你只是想找一种投资途径来帮助解决世界难题，或者想通过这种方式来赚点钱的话，那就押注ETF吧。
If you don’t need the work but already have some dough, chances are the good idea outfit could use some investors to beef up their operation. Dedicated individuals and tiny companies can be the best investment, but ones that already have enough backing to go public can and should pay off too. Whether you’ve got money to burn or just need the work, check out the companies owned by a few environmentally focused ETFs. This is a short list because most companies products can be used for good or ill, same as Aura’s example of extending the hand as a fist or a greeting. Same as even just commodities like iron can be made into guns or bridges. Same as guns can be used for murder or defense of a child. Same as a bridge can be used to rescue somebody, or attack them. Our list is an attempt to avoid the either/or conundrum and focus on stuff that’s more likely than not to help our world. And I’m throwing in a list of a few companies we’ve zeroed in on that appeal to us. We welcome your suggestions, too. But if you’re just looking for a way to throw money at solving the world’s malaise, or even make some money by doing so, just bet on the ETFs.

除了想出点子，然后把它们变成现实，我们还得生活在别人的世界里。不管它是民主国家还是独裁国家，它看起来都是大多数人想要的样子。因此，让我们的同胞们看到光明最终将成为最大的挑战。我们要做的就是支持那些看到光明的人。如果除了你之外没有人看到它，那就宣布你有能力带头走向更光明的未来，并开始行动。
Besides coming up with ideas and then making them happen, there’s also the matter of us living in a world of other people. Whether it’s a democracy or a dictatorship, it looks the way the bulk of the population wants it to look. So getting our fellow citizens to see the light ends up being the biggest challenge of all. The thing to do is to support whoever does see the light. And if nobody except you sees it, declare your availability to spearhead the march to a brighter future and get moving.

奥拉AURA

我得说，加州州长纽森就是这样的人，他下达了到2035年禁止销售汽油动力车的命令。尽管2035年对我来说太远了，也许到那时怀疑者会有一大堆，但是我还是觉得他看到了光明，并且正在做一件很有意义的事情。
I’d say somebody like California’s Governor Newsom with his order to ban the sale of gas powered cars by 2035 is such a guy. Though 2035 feels too far away for me, maybe the doubters will come around by then. I’d say he sees the light and is doing what makes sense.

科罗纳多CORONADO

还有那些独裁统治，强迫人们去做一些事情，就像西内说的：如果想法好，不是冲昏头脑的，那可能是好事，但如果不是，那就是坏事了。
Then there are the dictatorships that can force people to do things and, like Sine said: That can be good if the ideas are clear headed and good, but bad if they’re not.

西内SINE

对的，就像习近平对于太阳能的管理，就是蛮好的。
Right. Like Xi Jinping’s ruling on solar for power is a good one.

奥拉AURA

你觉得他足够有实力把你跟我说的那种鱼翅汤定为非法？如果他们吃的是整条鱼而不是鱼鳍，那就很难推销了。你甚至也尝不出鱼鳍的味道。
You think he’s strong enough to outlaw that shark fin soup you told me about? If they ate the whole fish instead of just the fins it might be a harder sell. But you can’t even taste the fins.

科罗纳多CORONADO

各种各样的想法，以及各种实现它们的方法。奥拉是个艺术家，西内是个网络达人。他们正在考虑制作一款电子游戏，希望它足够有趣，能让孩子们想出更多好点子。
So all kinds of ideas, and various ways of implementing them. - Aura’s an artist and Sine’s a web guy. They’re thinking of making a video game that’s hopefully enough fun for kids to invent more good ideas.

西内SINE

在这个游戏中你所拥有的工具是水，土地和空气以及他们做出来的所有东西。或者，做出，所有他们的原材料  (歌词)，或者......
The tools you’ve got in this game are the water, the land and air and everything they’ve made. Or, make that, everything they're made from  (lyrics). Or...

奥拉AURA

太空本身呢，更不用说它里面的一切了。我想知道太空从何而来。  (歌词)
How about space itself, let alone everything in it. I'd like to know where space came from.  (lyrics)

西内SINE

来自......来自什么？是什么？
From . . . From what? What's from?

科罗纳多CORONADO

你说得很棒，伙计。  (歌词)
You've got a lulu there, man.  (lyrics)

奥拉AURA

谁能想到给牛喂些海藻就能改善空气质量，不管有风  (歌词)还是没风  (歌词)。
Who would have thought just feeding cows some seaweed would improve air quality, whether windy  (lyrics) or not  (lyrics).

科罗纳多CORONADO

我认为如果他们能够完成这一任务，他们的游戏将会获得巨大的成功。幸运的是，有些人已经创造出了一些至少能够让玩家思考周围环境的游戏。这是其中一些的链接。到目前为止，我们已经做成的就是这么一个有推动作用的自由飞叶论坛  (歌词)，你可以在这里分享一些你的想法或者听到的想法:这是既可以分享，也可以与大家交流对话。试试吧，现在正是时候，至少在这颗蓝色星球把我们都吹走之前赶紧行动吧。
I think their game will be a blast if they ever get it done. Fortunately other people have cooked up some games that at least get players to think about our surroundings. Here’s a link to some of them. The one thing we’ve cooked up so far that has even a prayer of helping things along is our free feye fo rum  (lyrics) where you can tell us and everybody else what ideas you’ve hatched or heard of: It’s a way to share and maybe even dialogue with each other. Give it a go. There’s no time like the present. At least do it before the blue planet itself blows us all off in one big fart.

奥拉AURA

科罗纳多的梦想是在大峡谷现场演出。我和西内也被鼓动起来了，想一起去。幸运的是，西内对网络有一定的了解，所以，我们在疫情期间能够成功地把我们的故事传播出去。科罗纳多仍然梦想着现场演出，让充满激情的观众们能够见面，相互交流，火花四溅。但我觉得他可能和某个把自己的想法  (歌词)放到论坛上的人有什么关系  (歌词)。(但现在不在那里了，科罗纳多让西内删除它了。)。
Coronado’s dream was to do our gig live at the Canyon. That’s what inspired Sine and me to tag along. Thankfully Sine knew something about the web, and that’s how we’ve managed to get our story out there despite the pandemic. Coronado still dreams of doing it live and getting an electrified audience to meetup, rub shoulders and make sparks fly. But I think he may have something going  (lyrics) with somebody who put some idea  (lyrics) they had on the Forum. (It's not there now, though. Coronado asked Sine to erase it.)

西内SINE

是的。我知道他在经历什么。我只是希望他能像我一样幸运  (歌词)。
Yeah. And I know what he's going through. I just hope he has the same kind of luck I've had  (lyrics).